On the last day of #BHM2016, TIME magazine reporter Maya Rhodan sat down with Misty Copeland and POTUS, where they kept it all the way 100 on everything from racism to beauty standards to empowerment. Misty, the first Black principal dancer at the American Ballet Theatre — and collaborator on the President’s advisory Council of Fitness, Sports and Nutrition — revealed her own struggles with her looks and how she came to embrace them. She says, “I didn’t want to pancake my skin a lighter color to fit into the ballet. I wanted to be myself. I didn’t want to have to wear makeup that made my nose look thinner.”

Even the Prez talked about how the typical standard of beauty has affected Malia, saying, “I mean Malia’ll talk about black girl’s hair and will have much opinions of that. And she’s pretty opinionated about the fact that it costs a lot, it takes a long time, that sometimes girls can be just as tough on each other about how they’re supposed to look.”

The entire video interview just dropped yesterday — watch it here.